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			 Join Date: Jan 2011 
				Location: Australia 
				
				
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			Yeah learn the center double taught ont tivo 2.0, thats a good one. I dont use it much anymore because I came up with my own, which in my opinion looks more natrual and is also a little firmer so the cards wont seperate even if the cards being used are bad quality
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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