Jonathan Kamm (kammagic) Exposed

[Mark]

Another email has been added to the end of March 2011 document: Download PDF.

As I don't like never-ending back-and-forth emailing, I won't reply in another email myself. I'm sure Jonathan reads this anyways.

Although I'll let the mails speak for themselves, I'd like to point out some things:

Jonathan ended up saying that he was impressed with me being in the commercial and that it looked like fun. Is this how we say "Sorry. I was wrong." nowadays? I sure think that'd be the only proper thing to say after all the unnecessary, ungrounded, inappropriate bashing.. but maybe that's just me.

He also stated that I worked with paid actors. I doubt he has ever seen and/or heard of Big Brother (another concept by the Dutch) but Axe Heaven On Earth was just like that, yet with three angels and people getting invited to join the girls instead. The reactions of those girls were as honest as they could get. They sure were paid to be in the house for two full weeks non-stop, but not to act happy. They had their depressing and upset moments too and if I would've had sucked at magic their reactions would've said so.

And with so many people watching it sure wouldn't be a good idea to do the easiest tricks too, or else these would've been exposed on the web in no time. I honestly think that no unexperienced magician would've been as relaxed or would've even succeeded in that situation.

He also claimed that I'd have to prove myself right because his 27 years of experience tells me we are wrong about criticizing him. I think that continuously falling back on the fact of being a magician (something we never even questioned) while we obviously called him out for his online behavior doesn't quite help the discussion to end up anywhere. The world wide web didn't even exist 27 years ago. I think that anyone under the age of 25 is more experienced at it because they grew up with it.

As we can't see what he behaves like in real life through our screens, there is absolutely no evidence for him being the nicest guy on this planet. Saying that about yourself isn't a very nice thing to do either.

Originally Posted by kammagic

This is typical hater behavior. They attack. You defend yourself, They don't listen and attack again ......and again ...and again.

Nuff said.

[King Johnny]

Dont you think alot of what you guys are saying is judgemental and considered "hate"? To follow his videos and be critical, is what you all consider hate. Time to move on to performing people. There are far better ways to spend your time. I come back here after all this time to find people using my name again. I guess you guys never learn. Yes, me and Jonathan Kamm say alot of the same things, because as I said before-we are workers-most of you are not. Also, Albert, for you to say working behind a camera is any comparison to a real performance is just foolish. Get real. Oh yea, Mark-I still dont see any performance videos from you,and Im not talking street magic,Im talking in front of a audience.(here's the face you always use...)

[Albert]

Originally Posted by King Johnny

f you are not. Also, Albert, for you to say working behind a camera is any comparison to a real performance is just foolish. Get real.

I am getting as real as possible. I've been performing practically every single day (Except for weekends) for all 4 years of my high school through lunch breaks and after school as well. I've performed in countless parties and meetings (of course, with an exception of bar/restaurants; saying it now so you won't make false claims and statements like last time,calling me a liar.

And you know what I found? With hours of practice and the confidence you build up on yourself, I found it to be absolutely easy to perform for spectators. Of course, getting your patter work takes more effort. But I love interacting with them and just showing them my best magic possible because I know I can do it. I can use all the necessary misdirection in the world and they can laugh and have a blast. You can't do that through camera. Try making people laugh and actually enjoying their life through camera. You will find how hard it is to:
1) Make them smile and legitimately laugh,
2) To hide your moves completely so that replays become useless (i.e. to fool other magicians completely);
3) To apply surroundings to make the entertainment that much stronger.

Maybe this sort of explains how I view the consequences of video performances.

[tzihb]

Oh man, come on. Serious?
He has uploaded a new Video, calling this site “a hater forum”, created for hating. I'm not a hater and honestly I think you guys either. There was just a disagreement between him and this forum. It is degenerated, of course, but he has generalized everything. Haters hate without a reason. Also, why has he made this video? I think he needs agreement. Maybe not. I don't know.

Jonathan, if you read this, you will probably think I am a hater. I'm not. I subsribed to your channel because I want to see magic and not to read about your “haters”. This is not ok.

Just my opinion