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			I have two routines that I'm absolutely dying to learn more about. One of them was performed by Derek Delgaudio on his special with El Hormiguero (a Spanish television program): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDuJTUhLrqc (I'm talking about the end of the routine, the pseudo-Triumph second dealing demonstration) 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			The second I saw performed by Helder Guimaraes on the Portuguese program Sexta a Noite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyR11sRGZ7s Just wanted to know who initially created them, if it wasn't Derek or Helder, and where (if possible) I could find instruction. More curious about where the ideas came from, to be honest.   Any information is appreciated. Thanks  
		
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