Unethical to perform tricks you've figured out?

Albert · 10-15-2011, 08:04 PM

I told you, these guys are just trying to come up with stupid excuses to make you buy the tricks. Even after all this discussion on ethics on our other posts about lying in magic, we couldn't come up with a single agreeable term on what ethics is in magic.

If that's the case, who says that Ellusionist's or Theory11's definition of ethics is correct? Their ethics state: "If you don't buy the trick, you don't deserve to perform it." They think they are the authority and are abusing that higher standing as a business.

Honestly, I wish I could expose all of this stupidity and nonsense to the entire magic community and see people's reactions to this.

la0o9 · 10-15-2011, 10:59 PM

really? people actually respect these guys? it's only unethical if a person claims something that isn't theirs to be theirs, the performers aren't, at least, not in the credits section( hey, you HAVE to lie to spectators about this in the performance or it won't flow naturally). "If you don't buy the trick it's not morally right to do the trick", what? so they're saying that people who make cover songs of popular ones on sale on Youtube based on a free video or a free MP3 file online are unethical? i'm comparing those 2 since they are the same thing, figuring out a way to replicate the materials seen online for free.

10-15-2011, 08:04 PM	#1
Albert DarkSleightZ Artist Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 671 Donor Score: 110	I told you, these guys are just trying to come up with stupid excuses to make you buy the tricks. Even after all this discussion on ethics on our other posts about lying in magic, we couldn't come up with a single agreeable term on what ethics is in magic. If that's the case, who says that Ellusionist's or Theory11's definition of ethics is correct? Their ethics state: "If you don't buy the trick, you don't deserve to perform it." They think they are the authority and are abusing that higher standing as a business. Honestly, I wish I could expose all of this stupidity and nonsense to the entire magic community and see people's reactions to this. __________________ "Bluffing is an important act to all strategies." - Lelouch Lamperouge

10-15-2011, 10:59 PM	#2
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	really? people actually respect these guys? it's only unethical if a person claims something that isn't theirs to be theirs, the performers aren't, at least, not in the credits section( hey, you HAVE to lie to spectators about this in the performance or it won't flow naturally). "If you don't buy the trick it's not morally right to do the trick", what? so they're saying that people who make cover songs of popular ones on sale on Youtube based on a free video or a free MP3 file online are unethical? i'm comparing those 2 since they are the same thing, figuring out a way to replicate the materials seen online for free. __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"