is this idea taken???

schugunwinta · 10-31-2011, 01:37 AM

theheron · 10-31-2011, 02:19 AM

It seems a little similar to something by Chris Brown, I don't wanna say exactly, in case it would be considered exposure. But I can't say I've seen it exactly like that before.

Fin · 10-31-2011, 02:42 AM

Chris Brown, "Venus Trap"
Olivier Macia "Wow Control" (Control Freak DVD)
and others have worked on this move.

Findini recently did a variation called the "Jupiter Trap", and then was killed in a bizarre UFO incident, which was later covered up... then uncovered.... then that journalist was killed and it all was covered up again. Findini is now back alive and living somewhere inside Area-51.

Albert · 10-31-2011, 02:43 AM

It doesn't seem like the idea is taken, but that's a pretty big flash. Not particularly because of your skills, but because of the nature of the control. That's going to be hard to get away with in a live performance.

schugunwinta · 10-31-2011, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Albert

It doesn't seem like the idea is taken, but that's a pretty big flash. Not particularly because of your skills, but because of the nature of the control. That's going to be hard to get away with in a live performance.

Maybe if i switch the angle?????

Albert · 10-31-2011, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by schugunwinta

Maybe if i switch the angle?????

I'm not at home to try it out myself, but from what I can see, I don't think that will help much. Try it in front of a mirror. That's the best way to know.

schugunwinta · 10-31-2011, 03:51 AM

Alright thanks for your help

Fin · 10-31-2011, 04:47 AM

Maybe I missed something Albert, but to me this looks like exactly like the same concept as the "venus trap" except that the finger positioning/get-ready is obviously slightly different, and the cover/angles being used are not the same. Now I'm just confused. lol

Regardless of that schugunwinta, you should be proud of yourself for coming up with this control even if someone had come up with exactly the same one before. It is pretty damn cool, although I agree it has angle issues at the moment. But if you do a bit of research into the venus trap and other similar moves I think you should be able to conquer the worst of those angle problems.

Albert · 10-31-2011, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fin

Maybe I missed something Albert, but to me this looks like exactly like the same concept as the "venus trap" except that the finger positioning/get-ready is obviously slightly different, and the cover/angles being used are not the same. Now I'm just confused. lol

Regardless of that schugunwinta, you should be proud of yourself for coming up with this control even if someone had come up with exactly the same one before. It is pretty damn cool, although I agree it has angle issues at the moment. But if you do a bit of research into the venus trap and other similar moves I think you should be able to conquer the worst of those angle problems.

The concept is similar, but the move was executed completely differently from the Venus Trap, so that's what I mean by the idea not being taken (as in the exact same move).

la0o9 · 10-31-2011, 12:33 PM

well, the secret isn't new, but your handling is kinda nice, tho it's a bit suspicious.

schugunwinta · 11-05-2011, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by la0o9

well, the secret isn't new, but your handling is kinda nice, tho it's a bit suspicious.

Thanks, I think the natural move just gives it that look

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fin

Chris Brown, "Venus Trap"
Olivier Macia "Wow Control" (Control Freak DVD)
and others have worked on this move.

Findini recently did a variation called the "Jupiter Trap", and then was killed in a bizarre UFO incident, which was later covered up... then uncovered.... then that journalist was killed and it all was covered up again. Findini is now back alive and living somewhere inside Area-51.

umm ok then

Kelan · 11-05-2011, 02:39 AM

Lmao! Fin, when is Toe sleights 2 coming out?

schugunwinta · 11-05-2011, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fin

Maybe I missed something Albert, but to me this looks like exactly like the same concept as the "venus trap" except that the finger positioning/get-ready is obviously slightly different, and the cover/angles being used are not the same. Now I'm just confused. lol

Regardless of that schugunwinta, you should be proud of yourself for coming up with this control even if someone had come up with exactly the same one before. It is pretty damn cool, although I agree it has angle issues at the moment. But if you do a bit of research into the venus trap and other similar moves I think you should be able to conquer the worst of those angle problems.

Thank you very much Fin
appreciate the reply

10-31-2011, 01:37 AM	#1
schugunwinta Regular member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton Alberta , Canada Posts: 53	is this idea taken??? __________________

10-31-2011, 02:43 AM	#4
Albert DarkSleightZ Artist Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 671 Donor Score: 110	It doesn't seem like the idea is taken, but that's a pretty big flash. Not particularly because of your skills, but because of the nature of the control. That's going to be hard to get away with in a live performance. __________________ "Bluffing is an important act to all strategies." - Lelouch Lamperouge

10-31-2011, 03:51 AM	#7
schugunwinta Regular member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton Alberta , Canada Posts: 53	Alright thanks for your help __________________

10-31-2011, 12:33 PM	#10
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	well, the secret isn't new, but your handling is kinda nice, tho it's a bit suspicious. __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

10-31-2011, 02:19 AM	#2
theheron Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 117 Donor Score: 50	It seems a little similar to something by Chris Brown, I don't wanna say exactly, in case it would be considered exposure. But I can't say I've seen it exactly like that before.

10-31-2011, 02:42 AM	#3
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	Chris Brown, "Venus Trap" Olivier Macia "Wow Control" (Control Freak DVD) and others have worked on this move. Findini recently did a variation called the "Jupiter Trap", and then was killed in a bizarre UFO incident, which was later covered up... then uncovered.... then that journalist was killed and it all was covered up again. Findini is now back alive and living somewhere inside Area-51.

10-31-2011, 04:47 AM	#8
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	Maybe I missed something Albert, but to me this looks like exactly like the same concept as the "venus trap" except that the finger positioning/get-ready is obviously slightly different, and the cover/angles being used are not the same. Now I'm just confused. lol Regardless of that schugunwinta, you should be proud of yourself for coming up with this control even if someone had come up with exactly the same one before. It is pretty damn cool, although I agree it has angle issues at the moment. But if you do a bit of research into the venus trap and other similar moves I think you should be able to conquer the worst of those angle problems.

11-05-2011, 02:39 AM	#12
Kelan kittydakat Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 142	Lmao! Fin, when is Toe sleights 2 coming out?