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schugunwinta 10-31-2011 02:38 AM

Andrei Jikh Stole the De'vo's Flipback Charlier
 
In the original "Backpack cut" video Andrei says the cut is 100% original

http://www.theory11.com/tricks/backp...ndrei-jikh.php

Yet in this video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsfzk...el_video_title

He says there is a BIT difference in the comment section :

what's the difference between backpack cut and devo's flipback charlier?
sungwonyeo 7 months ago

@sungwonyeo there isn't much difference between the two except the backpack cut allows for many unique variations and is much more practical to perform, it was also the first one published
238662Jikh 7 months ago

So did De'vo created the filpback chalier before the backpack was created

KGaborMagic 10-31-2011 08:16 AM

From what I saw in De'vo's video, I guess there are major differences between the two cuts.

schugunwinta 10-31-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robandbob55 (Post 5034)
From what I saw in De'vo's video, I guess there are major differences between the two cuts.

Can you give me a link to a video of the flipback chariler because I can't ever find one.

KGaborMagic 10-31-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schugunwinta (Post 5048)
Can you give me a link to a video of the flipback chariler because I can't ever find one.


at 4:50.

Mark 10-31-2011 09:34 PM

Actually, as little as I like De'vo, there are more than enough sources that prove that Andrei (who was actually mentored by De'vo) put a whole lot of De'vo his stuff on T11 as his own, even putting "De'vo F*ck Off" (yet uncensored) in one of his old videos.

That said, every single student of De'vo who left has been said to have stolen something, but in no other case there is so much evidence as in this case. It was actually already brought up in the Magic Alert right here.

schugunwinta 11-01-2011 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robandbob55 (Post 5051)


at 4:50.

there's no diffrence

---------- Post added at 05:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:55 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark (Post 5052)
Actually, as little as I like De'vo, there are more than enough sources that prove that Andrei (who was actually mentored by De'vo) put a whole lot of De'vo his stuff on T11 as his own, even putting "De'vo F*ck Off" (yet uncensored) in one of his old videos.

That said, every single student of De'vo who left has been said to have stolen something, but in no other case there is so much evidence as in this case. It was actually already brought up in the Magic Alert right here.

I'm aware about that thread posted by Kalen. I just wanted to to get some more info on this because it was very shocking the first time I saw the handlordz thread on the whole Andrei "thing"

By the way Micheal Herp but up a picture of the thread on facebook and Andrei made some lame comment saying that de'vo was lying.

Mark 11-01-2011 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schugunwinta (Post 5054)
there's no diffrence

Actually, there is.. but it's pretty minor and credits to De'vo should have definitely been given. The difference is that Andrei has the bottom packet flip up to the top and De'vo has the top packet flip under the bottom one, which is slightly knackier.

There have been too many witnesses for De'vo to lie in this particular case. Thing is De'vo has a reputation to claim whatever flourish his students came up with so Andrei seems to try to hide behind that, and he seems to have succeeded pretty well from the perspective of T11 supporters.


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