Sourcing Questions

[Des]

I have two routines that I'm absolutely dying to learn more about. One of them was performed by Derek Delgaudio on his special with El Hormiguero (a Spanish television program): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDuJTUhLrqc (I'm talking about the end of the routine, the pseudo-Triumph second dealing demonstration)
The second I saw performed by Helder Guimaraes on the Portuguese program Sexta a Noite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyR11sRGZ7s
Just wanted to know who initially created them, if it wasn't Derek or Helder, and where (if possible) I could find instruction. More curious about where the ideas came from, to be honest. :thinking: Any information is appreciated. Thanks ^_^

[maenk]

Ah,thats quite impressive...sorry,but no idea of source

[Des]

They are very impressive. I love them both, just beautiful pieces of magic/gambling. :)

UPDATE: The one Helder performed is his variation of Paul Gertner's "Unshuffling the Faro Shuffle", or "Unshuffling". There are two other versions I found that I highly recommend, one by Juan Tamariz on Nada X Aqui (you'll find it pretty easily on Youtube if you look it up), and another with an absolutely brilliant triple kicker by Pedro Morillo found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jqg0nGMh-g&list=LLroU4hycweVPVSmSDwnpsQg&feature=mh_lolz
So glad I finally found it. Still unable to find Derek's 'Second Dealing' demonstration, but it will turn up eventually. I'll keep you zombies posted :p