View Full Version : What effects will be released in the store?
Kieran Oloughlin
02-21-2011, 06:01 AM
On the darksleightz website I it showed the downloads that will be avalible. WHat do these downloads have in them and when will they be relesed? Aswell as that will there be effects that will be relesed? I would like to see coinage, on top of the world, and the city or paris relased.
VetoHero
02-21-2011, 06:09 AM
I have spoke to Mark and he said they should be out soon. So just wait and be patient and yes I would like to see those illusions as well when available for purchase.
la0o9
02-21-2011, 10:26 AM
i don't think Mark will be selling individual effects, more like basic and advanced techniques to accomplish some of his effects( or simply to accomplish classic plots with less flash), tho i wouldn't mind Mark selling those effects, i still don't know how he did "coinage", but i got a vague idea on " on top of the world" and i know exactly how he did "the city of Paris".
in any case, the upcoming releases aren't going to involve those tricks... his website says so, but let's pray he will release "coinage"
Admin
02-22-2011, 07:38 AM
At http://darksleightz.itsesproductions.com/ you will find the upcoming releases in the Magicians: The Gathering section. Hereby the list so far:
Confusion A technique to practice and test your technical and presentational skills with.
Cut It 25 false two-packet cuts.
Interception An instant sandwich effect.
Jewel-cased Card through CD case.
Practical Pass The journey of Mark his take on the 'Pass'
Real Invisible Palm Mark his well-known take on the 'Invisible Palm' plot.
Repulse Control Albert his card control to wherever in the deck.
Resurrection Of The Double Undercut Our reply to Joel Paschall's 'Death To The Double Undercut'
Wild Sandwich Visual sandwich transpo.
We will have to do some of those releases first, before planning any other ones or else the list will never be completed. More information on the releases will be in the products their release threads.
la0o9
02-22-2011, 09:22 AM
"Resurrection Of The Double Undercut"
so... will Mark be teaching the people who buy the DVD ways to use the DUC more deceptively? or simply the basic DUC+ applications + one effect to use it with?
"Resurrection Of The Double Undercut"
so... will Mark be teaching the people who buy the DVD ways to use the DUC more deceptively? or simply the basic DUC+ applications + one effect to use it with?
It will be an extremely cheap downloadable release with me teaching the DUC including one of my performance theories that can be very useful for all magicians' performances of whatever trick they do. :rolleyes:
Fruglemonkey
02-22-2011, 11:33 AM
Aw, no coin effects or gimmicks :(
la0o9
02-22-2011, 02:09 PM
@Fruggle: it's a pity... tho idk if Mark is able of coming up with new, practical, good gimmicks nowadays... i mean, with a new one going out every month or so( or rather, revamped old gimmicks with a few new applications)
Mayyyybe we will re-release 'Globe' (a.k.a. the world's hardest coin vanish) as a downloadable too. On the original DVD there were more coin vanishes like 'Ms. Pac-Man' but if this gets re-released it will all and only be 'Globe' itself. :)
Kieran Oloughlin
02-23-2011, 05:28 AM
Wild Sandwich! Awesome! Will it teack on top of the world to?
la0o9
02-23-2011, 11:24 AM
I don't think there's anything used in Wild sandwich that is used in On top of the world, except may be the concept of 2 cards changing into 2 other... cause Albert didn't use the same control Mark did... idk if anyone actually know of a control that does what Mark's did... or can do that control as well as Mark did it...
Although 'Wild Sandwich' is a combination of 'Sandwitches' and 'On Top Of The World' (all of them invented in a row back in January '06), they all use entirely different techniques, yet using some similar principles.
'On Top Of The World' won't be released because such a release would be far too commercial. I have taught it to others personally though, and I probably will continu doing this.
s13zeTheDay
02-23-2011, 03:03 PM
is there any chance of any of the previous releases being released in limited quantities?
is there any chance of any of the previous releases being released in limited quantities?
Not the exact same releases, but for instance the 'Real Invisible Palm' and 'Practical Pass' (from 'King Of The Pass') are re-releases. ^_^
Kieran Oloughlin
02-24-2011, 06:43 AM
Jewel case sound intersting
Admin
02-25-2011, 12:04 AM
A re-release of 'Globe' is a fact now. Coin magicians will have a whole lot to practice once it's out. Be prepared.
la0o9
02-25-2011, 05:22 AM
wish i was one of them... too bad then, Mark, do you plan on releasing Coinage at any time in the future?
Nope.. plus that it's still a work in progress as it's still slightly knacky. :(
la0o9
02-25-2011, 12:13 PM
that in itself hints for so much... thanks anyways Mark, guess i'll have to do it the old way
tzihb
02-25-2011, 02:22 PM
Wow :D
All upcoming products sound fantastic!
Thank you for sharing your brilliant ideas :p
Kieran Oloughlin
02-26-2011, 01:54 AM
I don't want to annoy anyone but is there any confirmed relase dates, particular on the repulse control and wild sandwich
LittleLead
02-26-2011, 04:17 AM
Jeweled case is a neat trick, and the pass release is what I cant wait for :D
Albert
02-26-2011, 06:09 AM
I'm really hyped for the Resurrection of the DUC and the Practical Pass :D
Let's not forget the Repulse Control *cough cough... looks away* Haha jokes xD
TheMisdirectingHand
02-26-2011, 06:37 AM
All the releases look great, it's just a shame I can't buy any of them. :(
Kieran Oloughlin
02-26-2011, 11:07 PM
Are performances going to be realsed for things like jewel case?
la0o9
02-26-2011, 11:19 PM
pretty sure Mark have the decency to include a performance inside the DVDs... unless you were talking about a free performance on YT...
Kieran Oloughlin
02-26-2011, 11:38 PM
Free performances. I want to know what I am buying.
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Not that I don't trust darksleigthz
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I wanna get da repulse
s13zeTheDay
02-27-2011, 04:34 AM
I'm pretty sure that mark said he won't have conventional performances because he doesn't want us copying him
Kieran Oloughlin
02-27-2011, 06:08 AM
Have a silent performance then
Albert
02-27-2011, 06:28 AM
From my past discussions with Mark, I do remember him saying that he just wants to teach people the foundations so that people can learn to apply these concepts to their own routines or tricks themselves. if they don't, people just won't learn how to do it for themselves. That's why you see so many people trying to imitate the Buck Twins (their way of speech and style of card handling) or just the way the trick is done in general. This really destroys magic's potentials.
Of course there will be performances on YouTube in case the effect or technique in question isn't on there yet, but we will leave patter to the people themselves, if not full effects in case only techniques (f.i. the 'Repulse Control', false cuts, etc) are taught. ^_^
LittleLead
02-28-2011, 02:17 AM
Yea I heard this repulse control was made up by some weirdo named Albert, sounds like a.... GREAT REASON TO BUY IT!!! hahaahahahahah jk Albert :P
Albert
02-28-2011, 02:33 AM
Yea I heard this repulse control was made up by some weirdo named Albert, sounds like a.... GREAT REASON TO BUY IT!!! hahaahahahahah jk Albert :P
Haha Trollachu uses Mean Look on LittleLead! :D
TheMisdirectingHand
02-28-2011, 04:22 AM
Magician uses Repulse!
Albert
02-28-2011, 05:21 AM
Critical Hit! It's Super Effective!
Trollachu faints... Okay now this is getting ridiculous xD
Anyways, I'm also intrigued by the 25 two packet false cuts. I can only think of maybe 3 to 4 effective two-packet false cuts at the moment. And I know Mark's stuff aren't half-assed. Just shows how crazy Mark and his companions really are :S
Kieran Oloughlin
02-28-2011, 05:59 AM
Release dates?
We still don't work with release dates, Kieran, no matter how many times you ask. ;)
If everything works out amazingly, the 'Repulse Control' can be released within a week from now.
I really doubt that though. Stupid technical problems. :(
la0o9
02-28-2011, 01:36 PM
25 false cuts... 2 packets? that's ridiculous... i wasn't really paying attention but... 25 of them... how much misdirection do you plan on using Mark?
Kieran Oloughlin
02-28-2011, 10:45 PM
Oh Sorry... You could of told me that before.
All well I will just wait, probably completly forget about the resleses and then all of a sudden it wil be relsed and I will buy it.
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Holy jamoly while I was typing my comment above I was leaning on a sharp knife, what the heck is a knife doing in the study?
TheMisdirectingHand
03-02-2011, 03:50 AM
Twenty five does sound crazy... but hey, it's Mark.
One week?! What do you need left? You have the clips and whatnot...
s13zeTheDay
03-02-2011, 04:25 AM
just wondering, what will be the approximate price range?
TheMisdirectingHand
03-02-2011, 04:31 AM
I don't think they will be too expensive. Most likely they will be under 10$. Judging from what I know, anyway.
Albert
03-02-2011, 04:44 AM
The last time I checked, all the purchases were less than $10, while a few of them were VERY cheap considering the contents I believe it has.
la0o9
03-02-2011, 05:11 AM
he have to make the clips look professional and edit them, easy as that.
Kieran Oloughlin
03-02-2011, 07:08 AM
Will the Royal Casino card control extreme be relased, I know you once had a dvd on it but its a control (as far as I know) so will you release it? I am learning some card shark skills so it would be a defientae buy for me aswell as almost evrything else
Albert
03-02-2011, 07:36 AM
Probably not at the moment. As the Admin said before, DSZ's currently announced releases should be first. Only Mark knows what will come out after that and when :)
One week?! What do you need left? You have the clips and whatnot...
Yeah, but it's not exactly the way it should be. Some of the audio files are somewhat distorted so I either have to manually fix it (which takes a whole lot of time and might not work out well) or Albert need to find the cause and retake these (which obviously takes some time too). :(
Will the Royal Casino card control extreme be relased, I know you once had a dvd on it but its a control (as far as I know) so will you release it? I am learning some card shark skills so it would be a defientae buy for me aswell as almost evrything else
Sorry, it won't be released again. At least, not within the next year.
Kieran Oloughlin
03-02-2011, 08:05 AM
Dang! and oh well
Hey also...
Are the downloads you advertised in production or are they yet to begin filming?
THIS IS AWESOME a thread I started has got three pages of comments and stuff.
Admin
03-03-2011, 08:05 AM
Apart from the 'Repulse Control', we have yet to start filming them. Next week, our film room will be done and that's where all of those releases will be filmed so that's when we can start. We already got the scripts ready for most of them though.
Kieran Oloughlin
03-04-2011, 10:18 AM
I am going to start coin magic as soon as a dvd on coin magic i purchased arrives. How long will it take to get to the level of doing the coin magic from the globe download
la0o9
03-04-2011, 11:03 AM
technically, you can accomplish just about any sleights no matter how hard in a matter of weeks, some of the harder sleights that will require long term practice no matter how good you are at magic might take up to 3 months, but it's really a matter of HOW you use the sleights, you can learn the globe and then master it 100%, but if that's all you're gonna do then it's not going to help much in performances
BTW, the amount of time you have to put in to be able to apply a sleight to your performance is about half a year( you should be able to master lots of sleights by then), if you're smart enough, i wasn't so it took me a year to be able to apply my sleight to effects that i made up
LittleLead
03-04-2011, 12:19 PM
Globe is a hard coin trick (for more advanced coin magicians). So ideally, if you are persistent with your practices you should be able to do globe in a month or 2. But it will take you much longer to master the slieght.
mrtrickzstar
09-20-2012, 09:26 PM
what about "Attracted" Mark, and the phantom change? Is that being released ever? I cannot believe that On Top of the World won't ever be released. Can I meet you one day??
what about "Attracted" Mark, and the phantom change? Is that being released ever? I cannot believe that On Top of the World won't ever be released. Can I meet you one day??
'Attracted' might be released as an Exposure video someday. What's the 'Phantom Change' though? If you mean the vanish, 'The Phantom', then the answer to that is no as that gimmick is not worth it regardless of the effect being this visual and even quite performable (not quite as much as some of my other vanish gimmicks though).
mrtrickzstar
09-26-2012, 12:47 AM
mark, when will The Bidle trick be realeases??? I CANNOT WAIT!!
My 'Biddle Trick' will most likely end up as one of the Mystery Sessions, as we planned to have it be the same price anyways. It should be one of the first 5 sessions. When it will be out is still a question but we hope most sessions to be out before the end of the year so let's say within the next two months.
MrJack0fhearts
03-10-2013, 10:25 PM
Not the exact same releases, but for instance the 'Real Invisible Palm' and 'Practical Pass' (from 'King Of The Pass') are re-releases. ^_^
The "Practical Pass" was included with the "King of The Pass"-DVD?!
How come, that you have to produce it all over again, resulting in me waiting for it for over nine months now?
The "Practical Pass" was included with the "King of The Pass"-DVD?!
How come, that you have to produce it all over again, resulting in me waiting for it for over nine months now?
There are a couple of answers to that, but let me start by saying I am very sorry and apologize for the terribly long wait. We never thought or expected it to take this long and although we do our very best, there is not much we can do these days to make the production go any faster as for these DVDs.
Having said that, I have spent days and weeks in total making up with buyers over Skype or Tinychat, showing them what they will be getting. Please feel free to add me to Skype or send me a message as for that anytime as well.
To answer the actual question, although the 'Practical Pass' was shown and taught on the 'King of the Pass' DVD, it was taught on there as part of a series of techniques and not in as much detail as it should and will be taught as a product on its own. The 'King of the Pass' will not be re-released for that would be unfair for all of its owners who purchased a very limited copy, and its format and content is totally different than that of the 'Practical Pass' as well.
Also, our previous DVDs were produced at, and by, a studio and printed/pressed by one-and-the-same DVD production company. In the meantime, this DVD company went bankrupt and we can't hire the studio again for that this has cost and would also now cost a lot of money. Unlike back then, I have to make a living all by myself too now. It's either the way it is or the DVDs would cost about twice as much for all these extra costs coming along, and there already are a lot more costs made than usually and originally would've been the case.
Shortly said, the reason it takes this long is that there have been a lot of unfortunate and unexpected events taking place since the pre-orders started, from being forced to move places, to three computer crashes (two of which essential for the DVD productions), and from the DVD production company going bankrupt to Google Adsense and YouTube taking away one of our major incomes and marketing tools.
Sorry once again and thank you for your understanding. Don't forget to hook up on Skype or to send me a message of when you have time for Tinychat.